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Translation of Denaerde interview part 1 on the IARGA



(I = Interviewer, D = Denaerde, R = Rudolf Das - the


Scene: the interviewer and Denaerde stand on a shore.

I: Ladies and gentlemen, next to me stands Stefan Denaerde.

He has written a book 'Extraterrestrial civilization'.

Before we start talking about this, I would like to

introduce Stefan Denaerde to you. This is not your real

name is it?

D: Indeed

I: What is your age?

D: I am 46 years old

I: You are married?

D: I am married, I have 4 children. Dutchman, I have always

lived here.

I: What do you do for a living?

D: I am member of the directors board in a medium sized

company in the west of Holland.

I: The reason that we stand here... we are in

Noord-Beverland. Behind me is is Schouwen-Duiveland, in

between lies the Oosterschelde. The reason that we stand

here is that in the first chapter of the book you describe

a meeting with extraterrestrial beings who come from a

planet called Iarga. This meeting supposed to have happened

when you sailed your sail yacht on the Oosterschelde,

probably a little bit more to the west?

D: Indeed, more to the west, about 5 kilometers from here.

I: My question is: how did this contact take place?

D: It happened as a collision between this ship and a

submerged space ship, in fact a space disk, very similar to

the descriptions we have from flying saucers.

I: Did the disk collide with your ship?

D: No, the ship sailed during dusk and run into a submerged


I: That was submerged completely?

D: Not completely, what was above was no more than a flat

piece, which was invisible because of the darkness.

I: What happened after this collision?

D: It seemed that the ship could not detach from the disk,

later it appeared that the disk had a magnetic hull

plating. Then a contact took place with the inhabitants of

this disk.

I: I have read that you have been given a lot of

information about the planet Iarga during 2 days.

D: Indeed

I: In these 2 days you have been given so much information,

that I can hardly image it was just in 2 earth days.

D: Yes, the way the information transfer took place -

according to the book -  is different from the way we do

this on earth. Knowledge transfer is a material aspect and

it is possible to enhance this technically. They can induce

memory mutations by means of radiation. It happened as

followed. I was placed before a big screen on which they

showed 3D images and on top of that radiation was added -

inaudible, invisible - which contained information. I heard

I voice with separate words, that explained several details

of the image - height, width, depth, the connection between

two things, etc.

I: Was that a normal image as we know it, with the same

rate of movement?

D: No it was totally different. It was as if you looked

through a window into reality.

I: How did the communication took place?

D: By means of loudspeakers, an electrical system as we

know it too. It was not possible to talk to them directly.

That is explainable because of the difference in frequency

- they talk at a different wave length than we do.

They spoke in English, that is the language they have

extracted from our wireless communication, radio and TV - I

presume. They use a translation device that reproduces

short words, which were voices from earthly people.

I: For example from a BBC news reader?

D: Yes, you could hear male and female voices, sometimes

even pieces of words were pronounced differently.

It was clearly a mix of voices. They have apparently

translated fragments of our language and these fragments

are stored in this device to be reproduced at any time.

That was impression I had.

I: Did it go very slow?

D: There was a pause of one minute between question and

answer so it took quite long, yes.


Scene: the interviewer is in a room with a man behind a

drawing desk, who smokes a pipe.

I: Mr Das, you are technical illustrator who lives in

Aerdenhout. You make drawings for many foreign papers and

magazines. So it was not so strange that Stefan Denaerde

visited you 2 years ago is it?

R: No, I do get more of those people visiting me, who have

written a book that needs to be illustrated.

I: What do you do in this case when someone visits you?

R: I do not dismiss them right away, but see what they have

to offer. Unfortunately this is not much in most cases.

I: Why not?

R: In most cases it is technically incorrect.

I: That is the first thing you look for?

R: Yes, in fact I do. I am a technician and i do find

technical details very important. Most stories I get do not

add up technically and then I stop.

In this case my wife was pushing me to read this book that

was in our house for 2 weeks now, because I had promised to

do that. So finally I started reading it, reluctantly.

While reading I did not notice any discrepancies in the

first 5 pages.


Scene: Denaerde and interviewer on the shore.

D: These creatures are about 1.40 meters long, so smaller

than we are. The most striking is their short legs. They

have a curious, dribbling way of walking and they van use

their long arms to maintain balance.

I: This dribbling way of walking: you mean short passes?

D: Very short passes. Like the walk of a midget. You can

compare it with that. Their faces are totally different.

First they have a heavy armored skull, with a bone ridge on

top, they have a spilt through their forehead, which gives

the impression of the skull being divided into 2 parts.

They have long, sharp ears, understandable when you realize

that in a higher pressure you need higher frequencies.

Lower frequencies cannot be used because of their limited

range. Their eyes are different. They lack an iris.

Their eyeball is white-yellow and contains a diamond shaped

pupil. The eyes are deeper inside the skull for better

protection by pronounced eyebrows.

I: So they do have hairs?

D: They have very little hair. It can be compared with the

hair of a fur.

It looks as if these hairs do not beat trimming or shaving.

I: What color?

D: Different colors. Grey, brown, dark brown, silvergrey

and white, too.

I: Do they have teeth like us?

D: No, they have (artificial) dentures. Not made after

their original teeth, but just seamless white strips, that

work as scissors. This is more efficient, because of lack

of splits where food rests can stick.

Efficiency means a lot to them. Efficiency is part of their

philosophy of live.


Scene: at Rudolf Das

R: When you see the face of a Jargan you get the impfession

of a sort of horse head with a comb on top. This comb could

very well be explained by the higher gravity they have

there. But other features I could not explain.

To me it seemed a bit like a regression, a bit ape-like.

Another weird thing. A book has been written by Desmond

Morris, "the Naked ape". I do not know if know it. But in

it some aspects are mentioned about our looks, that may

have been caused by the ice age we have had. This could

have caused us to abandon living in groups but forded us to

retreat in caves as monogamous couples. This could then

have caused sexual sins on our face, like pointed noses,

ear lobes and lips turned inside out.

The funny thing is that this book appeared later than

Denaerde's script, and I discovered that on the Jargan face

that I had drawn there were no pointed noses, no lips

turned inside out, and no ear lobes. Nowadays you could

say: this was inspired by Desmond Morris. But I must point

out that this was known to me before that time.


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